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[大势] 目前进入C5浪下跌的延伸浪过程中给2个形容字--- ---惨烈

T+O的好机会呀,俺基本没操作。买了100股光明,没舍得抛.

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原帖由 宇泽妈 于 2008-3-27 22:38 发表

是以做空大陆股市为盈利的ETF,不是股指期货。
我昨天还想起来了这个东东,似乎从它诞生后,就结束了牛市。它刚成立的时候,市场也没太关注,之后就不怎么提它了,现在想起,它们肯定赚翻了! 该死的鬼子.

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大家还记得旺爸1月份大跌前的贴子吗?


the perfect strom
(译文在全文后)

The United States is sliding into recession. Japan seems too. China is tightening aggressively. Oil has soared past $100 per barrel. The stars are lined up for a perfect storm as 2008 begins. Hang Seng Index may drop 20% over the next three months. The market may recover in the second quarter as the Olympic mania affects market sentiment. Before investors can taste the joy of 2008, they must eat bitterness first.

2008 is a turning point in the global economy. The current bull market began in mid-2003: Americans recovered from the '9-11' shock and China recovered from the SARS shock. Both felt a near-death experience and became determined to live it up a bit, just in case. Americans went on a borrow-and-spend binge. The defining picture must be throngs of people rushing through the just-opened doors at Wal-Mart Centers. Chinese threw the money into property and then stock market and watched both rise. The defining picture must be the throngs of people staring up at the tickers screens. The two spent differently but got the same thrill.

Well, every party must end. America's is ending now. China's may have a few innings left but may experience a big hiccup soon as the US burst chills sentiment here and inflation scares Chinese policymakers into taking the away, even though temporarily. The combination may cook up the perfect storm for Hong Kong market.

The bull market depends on rising earnings and cheap capital. The former has benefited from 15% annual growth rate of China's nominal GDP for the past three years and rising share of corporate earnings in the economy due to faster asset appreciation. The macro tightening could take a big bite out of both. The tightening may slow nominal growth rate by 20%. It will reverse the rising trend of profit share in the economy, mainly due to its powerful effects on earnings in the property and financial sector. The growth rate for China's corporate earnings may halve in 2008, with banks and properties the biggest casualties.

Despite the Fed's rate reductions, the US economy is still sliding into a recession. The credit crisis has exposed the risks of buying into complex Wall Street products. It deters international capital from flowing to the US. Foreign capital has funded the US borrow-and-spend binge. Unless the confidence in Wall Street returns, Americans won't have enough money to spend. It takes time for foreigners to recover their faith in the Wall Street. The Fed's policy couldn't substitute this. Its rate reductions would only make dollar weaker and increase inflation. As a result, stagflation may stalk the US economy for a couple of years.

The US recession will decrease risk appetite among international investors. As international capital still dominates the Hong Kong market, it could see significant outflow. Further, many financial institutions in the US have capital shortage. They may have to pull money out of Hong Kong. Facing a banking crisis at home in 1998, Japanese financial institutions pulled big amounts of money out of Hong Kong. The US financial institutions may do the same in 2008.

Would Chinese money come to the rescue? Not soon enough. Chinese money may be flowing back into the A-share market recently. Even though the A-shares are so much more expensive than the same shares in Hong Kong, buoyant local sentiment still keeps them up. Chinese investors may be irrational. But, there are so many of them that they can keep an irrational market going for a long time. Hong Kong market is just too rational for the comfort of Chinese investors. Hence, Chinese market becomes a safe haven during the international correction.

The Fed reductions may not benefit like before. The property demand in Hong Kong depends on gains in the stock market rather than wage income. The wage gains are not exceeding inflation by much. The lower US interest rate won't spike Hong Kong wage earners to borrow and purchase properties like before. Stagnant population is another headwind for property. Japan shows that, with stagnant population, even zero interest rate doesn't make property price go up. Despite all the hypes about Hong Kong property, it may have peaked already.

In the second quarter, international financial markets may calm down, after fully pricing in a US recession. Chinese money may return to Hong Kong again, to play at a lower level. International investors may also have overcome their fear of the US dragging down China. As the two embrace, the market may fly again, even though the US market remains stone cold.

The Olympics party may not last long. After the summer, reality may catch up with investors again. Many Chinese companies are concept plays, not lasting franchises. Some might even be scams, despite being taken to the market by renowned investment banks. Remember subprime: big names don't mean much anymore. China's tightening will expose the negative cash flow businesses of such companies. The resulting explosions may affect confidence.

The air in Hong Kong and Shanghai may be squeezed soon after the Olypics. The deflating process may be painful to many. But it would make China's capital markets and economic development healthier. Many 'share gods' have emerged in Hong Kong and Shanghai. Their 15 minutes of fame are far more damaging than Paris Hilton's: they suck credulous housewives into overvalued shares without the pleasant look to soothe. Worse, they might be talking there own books and could be getting out while talking bullish.

Even bubble here goes through the same routine. Investment banks take doggy companies to the market for a fee. Some new faces suddenly don the cover of Fortune Magazine as the riches this and that. When the show stops, most stars suddenly vanish. Some manage to escape into the deep woods of Thailand with some stolen cash. Little people always lose. We seem to be doomed to repeat the same mistake again and again.

翻译:小编

美国已经开始了衰退期,日本看来也这样。中国也在很进取的紧缩。油价已经过了一百美元。当2008刚刚开始,闪烁的星星看来已经为一场完美的暴风雨做好了准备。恒生指数可能会在未来三个月下跌百分之二十。市场可能在奥运效应的刺激下,在第二季度出现复苏。但是在投资者尝到甜头之前,他们必须先吃到苦头。

2008 是全球经济的拐点。现在的牛市是从2003年中开始的:美国从911,中国从非典的震惊中醒来。两者都经历了死亡的感觉,于是决定,不管怎样,需要好好活着。于是,美国开始了借贷消费,最典型的画面,就是刚刚开门的沃尔玛门口的长龙。而中国人则把钱投入了房地产,然后是股市,看着它们上升。典型的画面就是股价牌前的人龙。两者花钱的方式不同,但是却有相同的结局。

好了,晚会总有结束的时候。美国的已经结束了,中国的可能还有一点点时间,但是也可能很快会经历倒退。因为美国的影响,加上政策制定者对于通胀的恐惧,使得他们提前把风球挂上,即使只是暂时的。而这些的混合,可能会导致香港市场的暴风雨的到来。

牛市依靠增加的利润和便宜的资本。之前大家受益于中国过去三年超过百分之十五的经济增长,以及快速的资产折旧带来的利润分享。但是宏观调控会影响这一切。紧缩政策会让快速增长减慢大约百分之二十。这会让经济利润分享的上升趋势出现逆转,特别是在房地产以及金融业的影响。中国的企业盈利在2008年可能会减少一半,房地产和银行会成为最大的受害者。

尽管联储局减息,美国经济依然走向衰退。次案危机显示出了购买华尔街复杂金融产品的风险。这阻止了国际资本流向美国。而外资是美国的信贷消费的支撑。除非华尔街的信心恢复,不然美国没有足够的资金被消费。要恢复外资对于华尔街的信心需要时间。联储局的政策是没有用的。它的减息政策只会导致美元更加弱势以及通胀加大。而结果,美国会出现好几年的通缩。

美国的衰退会让国际投资者增加风险意识。由于国际资本仍然主导香港股市,因此会看到明显的流出。另外,美国的很多金融机构出现资金短缺,因此他们会从香港抽出资金。在1998年,日本银行因为缺乏资金,而从香港抽回大批资金,在2008年,美国的金融机构可能会这样做。

那末内地的资金会来拯救香港吗?可能时间不够快。中国内地的资金可能会在最近回到A股市场。尽管A股的价格远远比香港的H股要贵,但是乐观的市场气氛对他们很吸引。中国内地的投资者可能是非理性的。但是他们有足够的非理性的投资者来推进市场在非理性中上升。而香港市场对于那些中国内地投资者来说过于理性,而中国内地股市成为国际市场调整中的一个天堂。

联储局的减息的效果可能没有从前那样有效,香港房地产市场的需求,依靠的是股市而不是工资收入。工资的增长没有比通胀多多少。美国的减息并不能够像以前那样刺激香港的打工仔去购买房地产。人口老龄化也是房地产的影响因素,就好像日本,即使是零利率,也没有造成房价上升。对于乐观者来说,香港房价的顶峰可能已经抵达了。

到了第二季度,国际金融市场可能会冷静下来,在经历了美国衰退之后。内地的资金可能再回到香港,在底位进行投资。国际投资者可能已经克服了对于美国拖累中国经济的担心,香港股市可能复苏,但是同时,美国市场还是石头一块。

奥运效应可能不会持续长久。夏天之后,投资者会面对现实。很多中国的公司只是在玩概念,不是长久性的。很多可能只是一个空壳,除非真的被投资银行放入了市场。记得这样一句话:名声大不再意味着什末。中国的紧缩政策会让那些资金流不足的公司显现出来。而这些情况的暴露可能会影响信心。

香港和上海的空气在奥运后可能会紧张起来。通缩的过程可能会很痛苦。但是会让中国的资本市场发展得更加健康。很多“股神“已经淹没在香港和上海的股市中。他们的15分钟的操盘造成的损害远远要比PARIS HILTON严重的多:他们把那些家庭主妇的钱,吸引到了那些高估价的股票里面。更糟糕的事,在牛市的时候把这些钱占为己有。

泡沫总是用同样的方式发生。投资银行先把那些所谓的公司上市来赚回手续费。于是在一些财富杂志上就会出现一些新的面孔。当这样的表演停止,于是这些面孔就消失了。一些人就会逃到泰国的森林里面,带着不法得来的现金。小人物总是输的。我们必须避免同样的错误再次发生。.

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政策市何时结束?别整天再叫什么投资者不理性了,要教育投资者了。什么时候别搞政策市了,投资者自然会理性的。.

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温家宝:经济问题解决后股市会好起来




  正在老挝访问的中国国务院总理温家宝30日在接受媒体采访时指出,政府要努力促进内地股市平稳健康发展,避免大起大落,集中力量解决经济发展引起的问题,中国经济存在的问题解决了,中国的股市会好起来。

  据报道,温家宝总理29日晚乘专机抵达万象,开始对老挝进行工作访问,并出席30日至31日在万象举行的大湄公河次区域经济合作第三次领导人会议。这是中国新一届政府成立后温总理首次出访。

  当被问到“港股直通车”何时开通时,温家宝表示不便对香港股市发表意见。他说,股市问题是香港和内地广大股民十分关心的问题,对于香港的情况我不便于发表意见,但希望香港股市稳定发展。

  对于内地股市,温家宝指出,政府是要努力促进股市平稳健康发展,因为一个健康的、可持续的资本市场,对经济发展最终是有利的,政府的责任就是:第一,保持经济的平稳较快发展,避免经济出现大起大落,集中力量解决经济生活中存在的突出问题;第二,就是要通过法制,建立一个公开公正透明的市场环境,这样既能够保护投资者的利益,也保护股民的利益。

  温家宝重申,尽管经济上面临困难,但是中国经济基本面是好的。美国次贷危机的影响、美元不断地贬值、国际油价高企不下,这些都会给中国经济带来影响,但是中国有一个独特的优势,就是有一个巨大的市场。.

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中国有如此大的市场,如果内需发展起来,对经济是多大的推动力呀!可是看看身边,到处充满了洋品牌,快餐,大超市都成了老外的,越来越多的鬼子们跑来抢我们的市场。我们的企业还在使劲地出口,搞些技术含量不高的制造品卖给鬼子,或者给鬼子们加工他们的产品。.

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把最近小补的一些出掉了,不知对否,看今天似乎春天来了。。。.

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